How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Revit has no tool to control layer visibility in compound structures like walls, floors, etc... Detail level Coarse displays NO layers, Medium and Fine both display ALL layers – including very thin layer, such as wall finish. Thin layers can cause unwanted graphic design (thick lines), so sometimes we want them to be invisible, but NOT excluded from scheduling and material takeoff. There are different workarounds to achieve this, some more or less preferable ...

Set the layer line colour to white:

- Open Visibility/Graphic Overrides dialog box (VG) and enable Cut Line Styles and click button Edit

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

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- Set Line Color for Finish 1 and 2 to White

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Finish layers aren’t visible, however they still exist. Their line colour is white on a white paper background.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Pros: Thin layer line isn’t visible, Finish layer is included in material takeoff. Cons: Inaccurate wrapping detail with gaps around wall openings, Snaping to invisible wall endpoints.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Combine multiple walls as a single wall and use Filter to hide/display

Wall: - Create a main compound wall type (i.e. structure and thermal layers) - Create a wall type for single layer (i.e. Finish 1cm) - Create an assembled wall with 3 separate walls - interior finish layer wall / central main wall / exterior finish layer wall

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

- Modify / Geometry / Join – join exterior Finish wall to main wall. Repeat with interior Finish wall. If walls are not joined, the wall opening (i.e. window) will only cut through the main wall!

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Filter: - Open Visibility/Graphic Overrides dialog box (VG) / tab Filters - click button Edit/New to create new Filter

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

- Dialog Box Filters – click button New - Dialog Box Filter Name – enter Name: Wall Finish

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

- Dialog Box Filters – Filters: Wall Finish, Categories: Walls, Filter by: Type Name, equals, Finish 1cm

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- Dialog Box Visibility/Graphic Overrides – click button Add

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

- Dialog Box Add Filters - select filter Wall Finish

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

- Turn of Visibility for Filter Wall Finish

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Pros: Thin layer line is not visible, Finish layer is included in material takeoff, accurate wrapping detail around wall openings Cons: Wall is not a single element so editing multiple layers requires extra work.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

These are two solutions, but unfortunately, none of them is optimal. It would be best, if we could control wall layer visibilities through Detail Levels, but it is just a wishful thought at this point. Do you have any better solutions?

There are many ways to create interior finishes drawings in Revit. Most of them are terrible and inefficient. After years of experimentation and trying different systems, we found the best way to create finishes plan. The technique taught in this guide aims to provide a consistent strategy that can be used in plan views, elevations and even 3D views. Good luck.

1- MODEL ADDITIONAL THIN FLOORS AND WALLS

Create a new wall and floor type with a thickness of about 12mm (1/2”). Call these elements INT-Finish Floor and INT-Finish Wall. You can adapt the name to match your existing standards.

Model these elements where you want to indicate a specific finish in your documents. In the case of a floor, make sure to set an offset equivalent to the element thickness so it sits over the main floor element. Also, make sure the main model elements don’t include a finish layer.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

2- JOIN THE MAIN WALL WITH THE FINISH WALL

By default, the additional finish wall will go over openings such as doors and windows. The trick to fix this issue is quite simple: use the Join feature in the Modify tab to join both walls together. The finish wall will then automatically embed all the openings.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

3- ADD A FILTER TO HIDE FINISH ELEMENTS IN MOST VIEWS

A benefit of this strategy is that it allows you to hide the floors and walls finish pattern in most views. That way, the finishes can be seen in specific finishes view but remain invisible in other construction documents.

Go to the Visibility/Graphics menu by using shortcut VG. Go to the filter submenu. Click to add a new filter.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Create a filter called Interior Finishes. Include the Floors and Walls categories. Set the rules so the Type Comments equals FINISH.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Add this new filter to the view. Uncheck the visibility parameter.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

The final step to make the filter works is to add the FINISH parameter value in the Type Comments of the finish wall and floor. You can adjust this value by selecting the thin finish wall/floor and by clicking on Edit Type. Scroll down to find the Type Comments parameter.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

The views that include the Interior Finishes filter with visibility turned off won’t show the finishes. The finishes will be visible in all other views. Make sure to use view templates to quickly add this filter to multiple views at once.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

4- USE THE PAINT TOOL TO ASSIGN MATERIAL FINISHES

Most projects have several interior finishes. Instead of creating multiple types of finish wall/floor, use the Paint tool to save time and avoid creating hundreds of wall types. You will find the paint tool in the modify tab.

In the example below, we assign a wood boards material. The original pattern is turned into a horizontal lines pattern that represents wood.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Make sure that the material you assign has been customized to display the appropriate surface pattern.

5- USE SPLIT FACE TO CREATE COMPLEX PATTERNS

If you need to assign multiple materials on a thin wall/floor, use the Split Face tool. In the example below, we use the tool to split the wall at 1000mm above the ground. This way, we can use two different kinds of finishes without having to model multiple walls.

To use Split Face, select the tool and click on the face of the element you want to split. Draw a line that doesn’t exceed the yellow boundary lines.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

6- CREATE A CUSTOM MATERIAL TAG

Create a new family by using the Material Tags template. It is good idea to use a different tag shape than the exterior material tag. In this example, we use some kind of extended hexagonal shape. Add a label that displays the material Mark. Load the family in your project and create a Material Tag for each different material.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

7- CREATE A MATERIAL TAKEOFF SCHEDULE TO USE AS A LEGEND

Time to create a material legend using the Material Takeoff tool. Go to the View tab and click on the Schedules drop-down menu. Select Material Takeoff. Use the fields described in the image below.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Then, add a filter for Material:Name containing FINISH, or any abbreviation you would like to use.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

In the Sorting/Grouping submenu, sort by Keynote (and add a Header) then sort by Mark. Uncheck Itemize Every Instance.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Go to the Formatting submenu and activate the Hidden field box for the Material: Name parameter. This parameter is used for filtering but is not required in the schedule itself.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

8- ADJUST MATERIAL NAME WITH “FINISH” PREFIX

Now, modify the names of the material you want to include in your schedule. You must add the FINISH prefix in their name so they appear in the schedule. In the example below, we add the prefix to the carpet, ceramic and hexagonal tiles materials. However, we keep the Gypsum material without the prefix because it is not used as a finish and doesn’t belong in the schedule.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

9- ADJUST MATERIAL TAKEOFF HEADERS

The image below represent what you should see in your schedule. It is impossible to add new parameters to materials. Instead, use the existing parameters and use them for your own purpose. For example, Material:URL becomes NOTES and Material:Description becomes DIMENSIONS. Fill out the headers like in the image below.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

10- FILL OUT INFORMATION FOR EACH MATERIAL

Now, time to fill out the schedule with all the required information about the materials. There is two ways to do such a thing. The first is to fill the information directly on the schedule.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

The problem is that we have no idea what material is in the first row, especially because the Material:Name is hidden. The workaround is to add the info directly on the Material Tab. Go back to the Material menu and find the materials that are missing on your schedule.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

11- PLACE SCHEDULE AND ALL INTERIOR DRAWINGS ON A SHEET

Time to put everything together on a sheet so you can put the final touch. Adjust the appearance of the schedule: add thick outline grids, adjust the fonts of the title, headers and body. Adjust the columns size. Center the text for each column. Another important point to know: changing the Type Mark on a material tag inside a view will also affect the value inside the schedule. Check out pamphlet

2 to learn more about schedules.

How to have finishing layer on top of wall revit năm 2024

Want to download all the schedules, material tags and other elements discussed in this blog post? Check out our brand new DESIGN package.

There are more tips waiting for you! Download the brand new edition of our seasonal pamphlet. You will find how to use the double pattern feature and how to indicate finishes inside 3D views.

How do you add layers to a wall in Revit?

Assign Layers for Compound Walls.

Click a row number to select it. All regions currently assigned to that row are highlighted in the preview pane. ... .

Click Assign Layers..

Click the boundary of a region to assign the row to that region..

Continue clicking other regions to continue assigning, or click Assign Layers to exit..

How do you slope the top of a wall in Revit?

Solution:.

Place a wall..

Select the wall..

In the "Properties" pallet, under "Constraints," look for "Cross-Section" in the left column, then select "Slanted" from the right column..

In "Angle From Vertical," type in the desired angle..

What is the substrate layer of a wall?

Substrate Layer The substrate layer serves as the base or foundation for attaching other materials or finishes. It provides stability and support for various wall coverings, such as plywood or gypsum board. Thermal/Air Layer In some wall types, an insulation layer is added for thermal performance.

How to join roof to wall?

Overlap Connections The roof-to-wall connection can be made by overlapping sheets of material together, or the sheets can be fastened together with a screw driver.